Import substitution, fairy tales continue (continued)

Having a little continued the study of the issue of "import substitution" on the basis of newly appeared information (tests, search for a solution), I came to the disappointing conclusion that earlier I was an optimist. In reality, things are much worse (in general, like in a fairy tale) than further, the worse. According to the comments of colleagues commenting on the first article 3–3–34. "Import substitution, the voice crying in the wilderness" 3r-3345. I cite references to regulatory documents calling us to “Patriotism”. The number of documents is growing, but there is only one problem, or those who compose them are very far from the IT sphere or even worse, in collusion Lobby of domestic developers. Order of July 2? 2016 No. 1588-p 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. The signed decree approved a plan for the transition in 2016–2018 of federal executive bodies and state extra-budgetary funds to the use of domestic software. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. I specify the transition plan [/b] and not procurement. 3r33333.  3r33434. [/i] 3r33333.  3r33434. Order of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media of Russia dated ??? N 335 3r-3332.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333.  3r33434. “On the approval of methodological recommendations on the transition of the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and the local governments of municipalities of the Russian Federation to the use of domestic office software, 333317. including previously purchased office software 3r3322. "
 3r33434. 3r33333. Attention that in their concept is included in office software: 3r3-3321. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r3384. 3. In accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, office software belongs to 33-33317. operating system 3r3322. , communication software, office suite, email applications, organizer, viewer, Internet browser, presentation editor, spreadsheet editor, text editor, file manager software, legal reference system, electronic document management software and anti-virus protection. 3r33333.  3r33434. 5. When state and local government bodies are switching to using domestic office software, it is recommended to provide a set of processes, actions, and organizational and technical measures carried out by state bodies and 3-33317. local governments 3-33322. and related with the replacement of previously purchased and used office software 3r3322. originating from foreign countries (hereinafter referred to as foreign office software) for domestic office software in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation regulating procurement for state and municipal needs, taking into account the prohibition on admission of foreign office software for the purposes of procurement for providing state and municipal needs. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 7. Governmental and local self-government bodies are recommended to accept 3–33317. make changes to target programs 3r3322. , strategies, concepts and /or other documents providing medium and long-term priorities and /or informatization measures for the period up to 2020 inclusive and subsequent periods within the established sphere of competence of state or local self-government bodies, including the inclusion of the provisions and ( or) measures aimed at the priority use of Russian information and communication technologies, including the provisions and (or) measures for the transition to the use of domestic office software,
 3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 11. In the case of planning the use of free software in the transition to the use of domestic office software, it is recommended to use free software, 3-3333317. details of which are included in the unified register of Russian programs for electronic computers and databases 3-33322. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434.
3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. Pay attention:
 3r33434. - We have already reached the municipal level! Those. just got into someone else's pocket, imported software was acquired in most cases not at the expense of the federal budget, but regional and municipal, and now you just need to throw it away (it turned out to be an incident when federal regulations, impose additional costs on budgets of other levels without providing intergovernmental transfers) . 3r33333.  3r33434. - touches
Appendix 2
- timing and% transition to domestic operating systems - by 50% by 202? 3r3321. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r3124. Order of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media of Russia No. 334 of 06/29/2017 3-333345. 3r33333.  3r33434. “On approval of methodological recommendations on the transition of federal executive bodies and state extra-budgetary funds to the use of domestic office software, including 3-33317. the number of previously purchased office software 3r3322. "
 3r33434. 3r33132. Order of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Media of Russia No. 495 of 09/25/2017 3-333345. “On Amendments to the Order of the Ministry of Communications and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation of ??? No. 334“ On Approval of Methodological Recommendations for the Transition of Federal Executive Bodies and State Extra-budgetary Funds to the Use of Domestic Office Software, including Previously Purchased Office Software ” "
 3r33434. 3r33333. Touches replacement percentages and deadlines: Operating systems by 2020 -80% domestic. 3r33333.  3r33434. [/i] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. Review of regulations is complete!
3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. Let us turn to the analysis: [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. The implication for import substitution was the threat of sanctions and, as it were, Russia's independence, but I, as a person with a normal Soviet technical education, still remember the “international division of labor”, “globalization”, “full production cycle”, “heavy engineering”. 3r33333.  3r33434. It feels like we realized that we could save Russia, but we don’t know how we do anything (we’re trying to pump out the sinking Titanic with a pump for mattresses). Software that only the top of the Iceberg wants to “import”, which rests on an elementary electronic base (> 99% of imported ), standards, protocols, firmware «firmware» and many other things - and also imported. 3r33333.  3r33434. It is necessary to touch the “evil burzhuinam” any of these pillars, the sense of our imitation and attempts in import substitution will be- ZERO. I fully agree that it is necessary to replace imports in certain areas, but why should ALL be strained with this struggle. It is imperative to protect (import substitute) Critical Information Systems (EIS), IT of the Armed Forces and cosmonautics - everything else, where there is “State Secret”, but the rest is “such a war” simply cannot afford. And how little it is hard to believe that the CIA really wants to harm the local self-government of the city of Muhosranska, Zadripinskaya volost. On the ground, we will never succeed in squeezing the intrigues of the “bourgeois” into the threat model and conducting a risk analysis (without blowing up the brain and the budget). After a monthly analysis of the technical and software part of the import substitution project, the result turned out to be more than comforting. 3r33333.  3r33434. In my institution, I can (and have done so far) only replacing the antivirus with KAV, the remaining 99% of the software is not replaceable thanks to GIS and other components of application systems that are not compatible with Russian Software (and not in words and slogans of developers with domestic handicrafts) ). 3r33333.  3r33434. At the moment, it is simply unrealistic to fulfill the plan for “operating systems”, and most importantly, it is useless - if you have ROSA, AltLinux, and other handicrafts of domestic manufacturers, “burzhuiny” can still dig deeper to spoil: BIOS, EFI, (iRMC-iLO - iDRAC-IPMI), FIRMWARE, RAID FW and other “bourgeois” software - and no import substitution will save. I have not seen something certified by FSTEC from NDV Firmware, can anyone come across? 3r33333.  3r33434. And the better our developers rework "the earlier bourgeois Open Source software," the less likely it is that it will rise and work with their "bourgeois" hardware and software. I didn’t see drivers and software either for ROSU or AltLinux (they are all native sources, and the zoo has 3 OS versions from one manufacturer based on three different assemblies of * nix systems - this is possible only in Russia). 3r33333.  3r33434. On the domestic component base, too, the Elbrus and Baikal processors are also vulnerable because of the absence of Heavy Machinery - there is no domestic equipment for their production, with the sanctions we will remain without them. 3r33333.  3r33434. What are the compiler's own domestic OSs (also a kind of "Heavy engineering") assembled? - I suppose, too, bourgeois? 3r33332.  3r33434. It seems that we are trying to hang the lock on the gate in the middle of the field, but there is no fence nearby. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r3172. 3r33333.  3r33434. Since I did not succeed in solving “Import Substitution” in the current interpretation from the first time by technical means, I, as an official, can suggest another way: organizational measures in the same direction. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. I got some crazy sentences, maybe someone will add them, adjust, support 3r3322. :
 3r33434. We, as customers and consumers, already have some restrictions and threats of punishment, I propose to mirror them to manufacturers (or they will have some privileges and no responsibility). If the developers are serious comrades, why are they so afraid of competition with imported software, I like A patriot will be glad if they do something so cool that the whole world wants to buy it. The current direction of movement leads us to a dead end as North Korea. From whom we want to isolate ourselves, there are no purely American companies, they are almost all transnational, and here we are with our bicycle with square wheels (which nobody needs except us) 3r33332.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. Manufacturers have already merged in 3r3187. Association of Software Developers
3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I also propose that we somehow unite in order to defend our rights in a lawful manner (including the right to survival). 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33320. [/i]
3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to come out with a proposal to restrict the subjects to which compulsory decree 1594 of December 2? 2017 (and listed below) is limited to only owners of critical information systems and systems where there are IT systems where there is a “State secret”. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33320. [/i] [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. Customers are required to purchase from small businesses 15% or more (but we ourselves are small). 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to come out with a proposal to oblige developers to envisage for the Subjects of small state and municipal customers (SMGiMZ) with a staff of up to 25 people or a budget for their own needs of less than 100 million rubles. per year, editions of products of the type: (SMB, ROBO, Lite, Essential) with price proposals of similar import counterparts (as a percentage of the price of the EnterPrise editions — like those of imported counterparts). 3r33333.  3r33434. SMGiMZ with less than 10 people - FREE editions (for rural settlements), only support if necessary. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33320. [/i] [/b] (in fact, a greater number of offices, are far beyond the Moscow Ring Road and do not have a ministerial budget.) As a result, we will save the consolidated budget and much. Not all the "State" cares about the budget of one-day companies, which will re-brand imported Open Source. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. Since the initial plan provides for a simultaneous period of transition to domestic by all levels of the budget, and consequently the federal budget will not provide for interbudgetary transfers for 2018-2020 for the purposes of import substitution for regions and municipalities. After 202? the federal needs for this direction to transfer money to subsidies to lower budgets for import substitution. In fact, these resolutions (if they are not changed) get into the pockets of all the inhabitants of the country outside the Moscow Ring Road, 3r-3317. instead of repairing schools and kindergartens, roads and other things, all your tax deductions to local budgets will be eaten by replacing software [/b] . It’s not realistic to replace in the short term what was purchased for decades with expensive Domestic toys, without significant loss of the budget (since there is so much money, they will be taken from schools, gardens and other areas of spending local budgets). 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to come out with a proposal to change the deadlines for regional replacement plans for the years 2021-2024 3r-3320. [/i] [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to come out with a proposal to change the deadlines for municipal replacement plans for the years 2022-2025 3-333320. [/i] [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to come up with a proposal to impose reduced prices on Developers ’Government’ type products 3–3–3320. [/i] [/b] (although they are all created by default for us, merchants are free to buy what they want, without any registry) 3r33332.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to leave with a proposal to impose Developotchikami significantly reduced the prices of their products, such as AE (for schools), or even free of charge to universities [/u] [/i] [/b] (In high schools still teach in C # and Delphi, any place to tie that knowledge to Linux)
 3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to make a proposal to impute Promo developers price their products at 50%, when replacing existing at the customer's license to import analogues [/u] [/i] [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to make a proposal to impute Developers Promo prices for their products at 30% when replacing licenses for proprietary software applications to import components for compatibility with the native OS [/u] [/i] [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to withdraw the proposal to exclude from the register of the Ministry of Communications Developer 2020 have not fulfilled the conditions of Promo pricing and editions «Lite» for SMGiMZ [/u] [/i] [/b] 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to make a proposal to transfer from the register of the Ministry of Communications of developers selling their software only as of the OEM or as part of PAC (and to a separate register), so as not to make a doubt, "auditors" in terms of similar import software solutions and domestic PAK declared to [/u] program. [/i] [/b] (about RAIDIX)
 3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. 3r33333. 3r33333. 3r33333. I propose to make a proposal to allocate the Ministry of Communications in the register new groups: Hypervisors, storage, databases. (which are not yet assigned to OFFICE software) 3r33320. [/i] [/b] (Check the functionality of domestic developments to conform to the group, too many divorced virtualization, which does not know the Magic Quadrant Gartner)
 3r33434. 3r33333.  3r33434. Your captain "Evidence." And now the moral of the fairy tale:
 3r33434. Import substitution, fairy tales continue (continued) 3r33333.  3r33434. If things go on, then import the stick will soon be over, and not a wolf eats pigs, and their D m cover everything because even G doesn't stick to domestic sticks. 3r33333.  3r33434. Immediately I apologize for the topic G, just boiling over.
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3r33418. It is necessary to change the "laws" and urgently
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3r33418. I don't care
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3r33418. The author went to the roof
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